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CAVEAT (valid for ALL tutorials -except my own- in this web
site) : all tutorials are provided " as their author wants them to be", I did
not edit any of  them, I did not proof any of them in the cordage, and they reflect their author personal realisation and stance in explaining things.


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IMPORTANT NOTE : All the content of this web site is copyrighted material that you
may use freely for non-commercial usage provided you make a CLEAR attribution BUT
you MAY NOT post on forums any invented grid/diagram, code,as it is the
CORDAGE ROUTE AND THE CODING that is copyrighted.
Even if you draw by your own means the diagram this will be infringing the copyright
as you would be using the cordage route and the code to be represented.

You MAY use an invented grid/diagram freely for a PRIVATE, PERSONAL AND NON-PUBLIC IN ANY WAY usage, you MAY post where you like the knotting you made from it but not its diagram.

To post an;invented grid/diagram you will need to politely ask for a written permission to do so also give clear attribution of the sources


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N'oubliez pas le groupe international ouvert par NONO et
ALCOSINUS

Do not forget the international group opened by NONO and
ALCOSINUS
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/groups/Mateloteurs


c'est là que vous pourrez voir les dernières nouveautés nouées par Norbert.


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2012 April 21 rst                 2012 April 22nd : first to do it Stefanos FANIDIS


A NEW POSSIBLE SPERICAL COVER WITH A VERY-VERY SPECIAL
PATTERN

This grid needs to be "proofed" in the cordage so now you now what to do.

The grid
The count of crossings = 328

Nono's words:
l'idée m'est venue du tressage croisé publié par Hans Gommans du groupe mateloteurs sur Facebook.
I got the idea of this  from a drawing published by Hans Gommans in MATELOTEURS on Facebook


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2011 Sept  26th

BRACELET BASED ON HIS 8-BRAID : here 4 are assembled

You will surely admire both inventiveness and realisation in the cordage of what first
appeared in Nono's mind

Bracelet



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2011 Sept  17th

BRACELET WITH STAR KNOT MERIDIAN

This Saturday  I had  Norbert and his spouse Zhora as huest for the noon meal.
the discussion extended well in the lateafternoon, early evening and  Nono gave me
this new grid ( you add as many copy of that to get the bracelet lenght you need ) for
a bracelent with a continuous star knot on its meridian.
I also got a wonderful bracelett that I still have to photography.



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2011 June 21st
A new bracelet (you can also find it on FACEBOOK :  Norbert TRUPIANO ( Nono) and Alain LEGEAY ( Alcosinus) created a group of international tyers with the name:
MATELOTEURS. Go and ask to join)
This bracelet is 2 STRANDs and 16 PARTs
Bracelet photo   one   and     two
Bracelet grid      one  

and     two
this second grid is for this bracelet ( 13 PARTs)
Of this s13 PARTs bracelet Nono said to me
[open quote] Ce bracelet est une étude qui date de plus de 5 ans, je voulais faire une tresse avec 13 brins, et comme le résultat m’as semblé joli, je l’ai ensuite mise en erseau. ....… Pour le calcul du diamètre, vous faites comme d’habitude, une première tresse avec du bout de 1mm et voir ce que ca donne. Sur cette photo c’est de la para-corde de 0,8mm que Didier Repellin m’as fournie Pour le schéma, Il faut éviter les multiples de 13 pour le faire en erseau… j’ai mis un brin en gris pour éviter ce problème Cela dit, j’ai fait mieux depuis… (voir la dernière tresse de 16 parts, rectangulaire) Cordialement [end quote]



[open quote]This bracelet is a study dating from more than 5years, I wanted a 13 PARTs
SINNET/BRAID and as the result seems to me to be pretty I made it into a bracelet.
....
To calculate the diameter, just do as usual : make a braid with a 1mm diameter cord and see what you get.
On this photo it is 0.8 mm para-cord Didier REPPELIN gave to me.
On this grid multiple of 13 must be avoided to make it into a bracelet (closing in a circle) ...
I put in the grey strand to avoid this problem.
That said, I have made better since....( see the latest 16 PARTs braid I shared, rectangular section )
Best regards [end quote]


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2011 April 28th
A newly invented key fob

When Ricardo asked for the precedent key fob grid he set Norber into motion and loo :
here is a new grid made by modifying ABoK #2949 from being single-strand to being
two-strand.

[open quote]
Ton ami Ricardo va devoir s'armer de patience pour réaliser ce nœud fait avec deux brins…
L'hélice du #2949 est similaire à celle imaginée par Léonardo di Vinci pour l'escalier du château de Chambord ou encore celui de la statue de la liberté. (ces escaliers permettent de monter par un coté et descendre par l'autre ce qui fait qu'on ne croise personne)

Avec le #2949 modifié par nono c'est une quadruple hélice, deux personnes pourraient
monter simultanément sans se voir et ne pas croiser les deux autres qui seraient en train de descendre.

Je suis assez content du travail réalisé, il ne reste plus qu'a trouver une plaque de liège et des aiguilles… et deux bouts de couleurs complémentaires, pour réaliser un beau porte-clefs.
Par contre je n'ai pas cogité sur le passage de la boucle au centre, il faut le réaliser et
commencer à le serrer sur des aiguilles pour voir où le passage sera le plus judicieux.
Mais le gros du travail est fait, si on suis le schéma en respectant les passages, on obtiendra bien deux hélices imbriquées de deux couleurs différentes.

Conseil pour la réalisation, faire le passage comme indiqué sur le schéma, enlever toute les épingles, monter ensuite le résultat sur quatre aiguille de tricotage (en les faisant passer aux endroits où les boucles se forment naturellement) avant de procéder au pré-serrage. Sinon, si on ne visualise pas le résultat que cela doit donner, on cours au sac de nœuds [end quote]

the next message from Norbert was:

[open quote]
Voilà le résultat… avec une longueur de schéma.
Je l'ai un peu modifié pour mieux pouvoir piquer les épingles.
Par contre, contrairement au #2949 original, on ne peut pas moduler la longueur, alors le mieux est de faire un essai avec un schéma et voir la longueur du nœud obtenu et multiplier la longueur des schémas pour obtenir la longueur désirée.
En l'occurrence, avec du 1mm il est préférable de doubler le schéma.
[end quote]


and answering my queries about how much time was needed.

[open quote]
Ce matin, 8h à 12h, épinglage…
Serrage de 13h à 14h
Sieste 14h à 16h,
Photo à 19h10
Taille du nœud : Diamètre 13mm - Longueur 27mm, bouts de 1mm
Je suis assez content de moi…
Je réfléchis à un outil qui permettrait de faire ce nœud sans schéma.
[end quote]


[open quote]
Your friend Ricardo with need to arm himself with patience to make this knot with
two-strands...
The helix of #2949 is reminiscent of the one imagined by Da Vinci for the staircase in
Le Château de Chambord ( also one double helix in La Statue de la Liberté).(those stairs allow climbing up one one and climbing down on the other so as to meet no one)

Wit the #2949 modified by Nono it is a quadruple helix, 2 persons could go up
simultaneously without seeing each other and without meeting two persons that would be going down.

I am rather happy with the work done, remains to find a cork board and pins..and two l
engths of cord in complementary colours, to make a beautiful key fob.

But I have not thought out the passing of the loop in the center, you need to lay it and begin your setting around the knitting needles to see where it will be best to make the passage.

Still "the big part" of the work is done, when following the grid complying with the route and crossings, two interlocked helices of different colours will be obtained.

A tip for the making, make the laying as indicated by the grid, take off all the pins, put in place four knitting needles (inserting them were the 'loops' are spontaneously appearing) before beginning the tight setting. Not doing that you will not perceived the result to be obtained and you will be running for a tangling ( a bag of knots ! ) .
[end quote]


[open quote]
Here is the result ...using one"grid length"
I slightly modified the grid to make the placing of the pins easier.
Contrary to the original #2949, you cannot modulate the length, so the best is to make a "sampling run" using one grid to get the length obtained and then use as much "unit grid" as necessary to get the desired length.
As is the case, with 1mm diam cord it is better to use two grids.
[end quote]

and answering my queries about how much time was needed.

[open quote]
This morning, 8h to 12h, laying and putting pins…
Fairing and setting from 13h to 14h
A nap 14h to 16h,
Photo : 19h10
Sizes : Diameter 13mm - Length 27mm, cordage  1mm diam
I am rather please with myself...
I am thinking about a tool that would allow to make this knot without using the grid.
[end quote]


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2011 April 26th

The keyfob given to Catherine

Le corps de ce porte-clefs (partie droite) est faite selon #2949 ABoK, seulement je passe un brin en son centre pour faire la boucle du porte-clefs non sans l’avoir fait passé au préalable  à travers une belle bille et seulement après avoir fait la tête qui est effectivement un #792 ABoK.
La série #2943 à #2951 sont des chainettes à un brin et non pas deux…

je n’ai malheureusement pas exploré les possibilités quand à l’exécution de cette chainette avec plusieurs brins, je me souviens avoir songé essayer avec deux brins en croisant au centre, mais je n’ai pas encore essayé.

J’ai le schéma de cette chainette, que je te joint au mail pour le présenter à ton correspondant.

(Le bout rouge repasse par le même chemin que la boucle… , je n’ai pas représenté le #792 sur ce shéma, il se fait au premier passage de la boucle avant que le brin ne revienne…)



The body of this key fob (right side part) is made after ABoK#2949 but I pass one strand through its centre to make the loop after passing it through a good looking ball and after having made "the head" which is indeed ABoK#792.

The series #2943 to #2951 are one-strand chains (sinnets)not 2-strands.
Unfortunately I have not explored the possibilities of executing this chain with more than one strand, I remember having thought about trying 2-strands crossing in the centre but I hav not made it yet.

I have the grid for this chain that I attach for your correspondent use.
( the red extremity pass following the same route as the loop (the part coming from the loop is what I think is a better translation even if taking some distance with the origibal words in French)..., I did not represent the  #792 on this grid, it is made at the first passage of the loop before the strand goes back...)


NONO's grid
Quote of ABoK #792


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2011 April 14th
Nono strikes again : a rather elegant and particular spherical covering for a billiard ball N° 8 that he made for ALCOSINUS ( Photo of the item is ALcosinus's ) on a grid of his invention.


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2011 April 10th
Look at the 2009 August 1rst topic : a new grid for the SATURNE knot


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2011 March 13th

The keyfob Nono gave to Catherine on Feb 12th and that I photographed today.

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Received  2011 Feb 12th


On February 12th I was invited by Zohra and Nono to eat a Morrocan couscous for lunch. The day was as marvelous as the cooking. Ilyess, Nono and Zohra 's son was "extra".
At that occasion Nono had put on show his latest works and I end with them all, except a key fob that went to Catherine who was accompanying me.
This Picasa slideshow exhibits all I got ( missing is the Prince's bracelet that I also got and Catherine's key fob.

1776Faces spherical covering
Two cube covering
Nono's PIZZA
a  bell rope
a keyfob



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Received  2011 Jan 30th

Another creation by Norbert TRUPIANO aka NONO, inspiration taken from ESCHER.

Here is the grid from Nono's hand ( he putit in his Picasa public album.)

Now is the occasion of showing for the first time a rather "kept close to the chest for some time"  software by Claude HOCHET ( The RKnot BUILDER V3  guy).
What  he did for the Regular Knots with RKB is in there for the NESTED CYLINDRICAL KNOTS ( Herringbone-Pineapple, Herringbone proper, and many other ones) -see Friends_page_9 for just a wee bit details-.

Grid by Nono's hand
Grid by Claude HOCHET software



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Added  2011 Feb 1st

Another creation by Norbert TRUPIANO aka NONO, inspiration taken from ESCHER.

Here is the grid from Nono's hand ( he putit in his Picasa public album.)

Now is the occasion of showing for the first time a rather "kept close to the chest"
software some weeks old by Claude HOCHET ( The RKnot BUILDER V3  guy).
What  he did for the Regular Knots with RKB is in there for the NESTED CYLINDRICAL KNOTS ( Herringbone-Pineapple, Herringbone proper, and many other , in an ignorant and uneducated way, called '''''''interweaves'''''''''.

Grid by Nono's hand
Grid by Claude HOCHET software


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Added  2011 January 12th

Here is Nono 's tracing of knot #1388 in ABoK.
You  just follow Ashley with this grid simply drawn in a more user friendly fashion by Nono from the fundamentally  unmodified Ashley grid.

You need TWO printings of the grid to get the full  necessary size for making the knot
Photo courtesy of Nono of course.




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Added  2011 January 6th

Here are NONO's grids for the Prince EDWARD's Carricks bracelet decrypted
by our Nono
Of course this sort of diagrams is pure Nono !



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ANOTHER INVENTION BY NONO (Norbert TRUPIANO) 
Added  2011 January 3rd

1776 FACEs DIAGRAMS for spherical (and hexahedral) covering
the spherical form
the hexahedral form





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ONE OF A KIND BRACELET OFFERED TO ALCOSINUS BY NONO

IF you want to order one from NONO just contact me and I will forward the mail after that it will be between you and Norbert TRUPIANO

 Added 2010 Nov 9th :  a complete  simplification of the convoluted tale of the
sequence of events as they happened.
To get the original (confused) story as it was at this date just read this linked page.


Added 2010 Oct 22nd :

A NOORBERT TRUPIANO ( Norbert is the normal spelling but this is an eye wink
between NONO and I ) idea that I had , till now failed to show on MY PAGES SO IN DOUBT I AM THAT THERE ARE THAT MANY PERSONS  ABLE TO DO THIS KNOT.

I have had this one "under the elbow" for some time.

Alcosinus (Alain LEGEAY) can be seen sporting this very particular bracelet; a gift to him from our common friend NONO .

Nono made a whole new tracing (and don't be silly and say that it is not an invention as this would just show ignorance) for the making of modified ABoK #1389, a knot linked with  ABok #3054.
THIS ONE TRACING IS SINGLE STRAND .
The poor dumb ass who wrote "Ok but unless he is 100 years old he didn't invent it. Just find a copy of ABOK and use the print in it." must have a very poor intelligence of knotting to dare write such an utter stupidity.

INDEED NORBERT THOUGH NOT 100 YEARS OLD DID INVENT THE SINGLE STRAND VERSION.

Despite what Ashley may have written (it is not the first oddity written by that  worthy
Author)  THIS IS NOT *repeat NOT* a  Turk's Head K even if it is a cylindrical knot with the visual appearance of a braid.
NOT AT ALL a THK : if only for the reason  that it does not follow a THK cordage route!

Yet a part of the cordage route (in gray lines) is indeed a part of a  6 L  13B THK  'inside' which  'something" is interlaced.

This 'something' is a sinnet or braid.
Don't miss Nono's Excel worksheet for braids 

Translation of Norbert's words :

I am going to describe a little the conditions in which I made the bracelet you have
in this photo.

It is inspired by ABoK #1389 which is in fact a transposition....of sinnet #3054.

As you know I like  a challenge, but I did that knot only twice...
The only one still existent is the one that Alain own, the second one was indeed sported by the person to whom I gave it , but after several washings had the wrist "strangled" and cut it.

The cordage used for this bracelet is tuna line, "Cousin" brand, 1.5 millimeter
( nautile : here I use '.' as decimal separator instead of the ',' we Frenches are using)
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To make that knot I made use as "guiding thread"  of laid sail thread 0.5mm in diameter ,
.... that I   "solder" with cigarette lighter...and more than that of being able to 'make good' some mistake in laying = cut the "guiding thread and lighter soldering.
Once the griding and mule netting in sail thread is finished I take the pins off and I solder the tuna line to the guiding thread and I lay down the tuna line with a  very regular tension.without too much tightening
because thee is a difference between the guiding thread and the tuna line in their diameter and you must not tighten too much to allow the easy passage of the tuna line., if you tightened directly to the mold diameter  you will not be able to finish laying the tuna line.
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Sadly I do not have (no camera) pictures from that time, but I still have the tools used in the creation of this knot, who knows ? if one day it takes me again....the bracelet will be for you Charles, that is sure.

To do that I would have to find 10 m of sail thread and time....( it is the least difficulty here, Alain could send me some if he pass in front of a sails shop)

I would also need that the baby (much busy making rounds around me and whose main occupation is " catching this thread" that Papa is playing with )  stop moving for two days (THAT is of the order of the impossible)

Yours, Norbert


There exist TWO different grids (one with 12 B the other with 14 B) that you will need to glue together in a particular sequencing so as to get an entire working grid.

This working grid which is an assembly of the component grids is then to be put on a cylinder (This 2 GRID cylinder  is just for showing  with the smallest sequence possible: ONE 12 B grid plus ONE 14 B grid and  how they can form a cylinder but this is not for a bracelet. It  would work for a ring though, probably. ( Barry's thought )

The cylinder I made here using full page printings of each one of Nono's grids is 17 cm in diameter


GRID ONE 14 BIGHT                

                
GRID TWO   12 BIGHT

This is SINGLE STRAND, it is worth to be repeated.

A bit of nomenclature : one can count in BIGHT or as did Nono and Barry in SUMMITS.

BIGHT  are numbered in RED  so 12 B are numbered in BLUE for one series and in
GREEN for the other hence 6 + 6 SUMMITS are numbered in black and are in yellow.
In fact I was a little bit lost personaly about  those "SUMMITS" and the light came from Barry BROWN

THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED !

In  case one of you readers indeed succeed in making this one in the next year please
make contact and send a photo of it for these pages of mine ( act before my death ;-)  ).

I have a notion that the sunrise of that day is not in the astronomical almanacs in print .****

Persons thinking that a HERRINGBONE-PINEAPPLE K. is the epitome of a difficult
type of knot should abstain from attempting the making of this bracelet ( or first try a
5-PASS HERRINGBONE K. to get an inkling of what "difficult knot" may really means ! ).
I don't want to be accused of inducing despair, depression and suicide ;-) in the IGKT
and other knotheads folks of all ilk* . .........Come to think of it............;-)

*( for those not knowing it 'ilk is Scottish just as "wits and ken") -
http://dictionnaire.sensagent.com/ken/en-en/

IF you want to order one from NONO just contact me and I will forward the mail after that it will be between you and Norbert TRUPIANO

Added  Nov 1rst
****  I AM NOW PROVEN WRONG and I very much like it  : the almanac giving the sunrise of the day which would see a bracelet coming from brains and hands using Norbert's grids was indeed in print...in U.K

It did not take long for Barry BROWN to accept the dare and beautifully win it !

The three photos there are by courtesy of Barry. (I inserted them at their original place in the quoting of Barry's email)

DO NOT MISS BARRY's SITE :  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ropeandcanvas/index.html

Here is what Barry has to tell ( you have his site address just above just in case you need something more.
( added a few hours after this addition about Barry BROWN :
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ropeandcanvas/page4.html     BARRY BROWN's explanations in his own page beautifully illustrated)

[open quote]
I will put the details on my web site. ( nautile : now it is done and the address is just above)
here is my finished knot. please feel free to use the pictures on your web site if you like.
It is made with 1.2mm braided Nylon which has no core and was very soft.
SEE PHOTO

Below is the form I made it on, only 220mm diameter.
SEE PHOTO
I used Norbert's patterns and resized them to make them smaller as I don't mind working in small spaces.

I am very grateful to Norbert for making a new pattern as the ABOK #1389 pattern is not very easy to use or join together.

I used 492 pins to hold the knot whilst tying it and around 20 meters of nylon, the finished knot only uses around 5500mm of cord.       

here is a half sized one I made first using the patterns from the ABOK  this one started with 50 bights on the pattern.     SEE PHOTO

Thank you for making the information available on your web site and also many thanks to Norbert for making the patterns and a very worthy challenge ;-) [end quote]

(nautile : Barry says he used 7 + 1 grids after counting 49 + 49 "summits" on the photography that Alcosinus had in his Flick album,)


Added  Nov 1rst
From Barry BROWN
[open quote]
I have some more accurate measurements of my bracelet, the line I used is actually 1.3mm diameter Nylon, but as it is hollow it flattens out to 1.5mm when braided.
 
I put my bracelet back on the jar that I tightened it on and the inside diameter of the bracelet is 67mm exactly, this is the measurement of the jar diameter, the bracelet is not stretched when put on the jar so this is a pretty accurate measurement. I think originally I got my numbers mixed up and came out with 75 or 76mm?
The outside diameter of the bracelet measured over the summit parts is 79.11mm
[end quote]



Barry  :   1.3 mm   ( instead of 1.5 as in above but as it flatten to 1.5 )
Nono : 1 mm even 0.9mm   today measurement made by Alcosinus on his bracelet

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Added 2010 Nov 3rd  18:00
HOURRAY for Barry BROWN observation power !
Final word of the BOARD of INQUIRY ;-)

Nono after getting a new set of picture from Alcosinus :  PHOTO 1       PHOTO 2  

[open quote]
A la vue de tes photos, il s’avère que les dimensions que j’ai donné sont fausses, il n’y a que 49 sommets sur ce nœud, c’est le premier que j’ai réalisé , il n’y a donc que 8 schémas.
Seeing the photos ( Alcosinus's) it appears that the measurement I gave are
mistakened, there are only 49 summits on this knot, it is the first I made , there were only 8 grids all told
( nautile = So Barry you are a good observer and did exactly the identical to
the first Nono's bracelet )
Les dimensions que j’ai données sont celles du deuxième bracelet, qui lui a été réalisé en soie de pêche de 0,4 et qui a été détruit.
The dimensions I gave are those of the second bracelet which was made with a 0.4mm fishing "silk" , this bracelet was destroyed.
La circonférence du schéma est donc de 125cm environ soit un diamètre de 40 cm, ce qui donne125x17 = 21 mètre de fil environ
The circumference of the grids is about 125 cm or a 40 cm diameter which give 125 * 17 = 21 m of cordage or about[end quote]

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so the BRACELET HALL OF FAME :
* First to make it and inventor of the single-strand grid which is NOT in
ABoK = NORBERT TRUPIANO - FRANCE
*  second to make that bracelet  BARRY BROWN - UNITED KINGDOM who will  be third ?  ( after third all places are as equals as unoticeable ! )

Added 2010 Nov 8th  11:15
THIRD IS AndreeTREFFENFELD ( Igkt-GERMANY )

He was among the first to be told of the bracelet being put on line, he read the first version where I spoke of the cylinder I made with the 2 grids and he was mislead by my ham-fisted attempt at clarifying the use of the two type of templates  (12 B and 14 B ).

So he ended up with this MINIATURE which is not yet fully "faired and dressed".

*** this miniature demands a lot less time but offers the same difficulties per centimeter than " 7+1 GRID" models and in the cordage it was done with and due also to the angle of the shot it gives an ease of "visual acquisition of the details" that I do not feel with the previous views.

Andree send this on 2010 Nov 19th : his RING made with NONO's grid templates
Photo 1     Photo 2

" The template had a diameter of 14 cm, the cord is flat nylon 2*1 mm, the inner diameter is 0,8 cm, the outer 2,4 cm.
 
I started with 60 m cord but since I did not follow the instruction and only glued together one engine + one waggon, it was much too lenghty. As I am too proud (or too tight-fisted) to cut the cord, I used the whole 100m spool and you can imagine how long it took to produce the ring, especially when I detected 4 flaws which I had to repair. (I welded together the start and end of the cord and pulled this through the whole braid. At the spot of the error, I cut and reglued the cord to repair the braid without losing lenghts of cord.)
 
I am still seeking for some styropor or other foam which can serve as core for the 1+7 template but I intend to do the "big one" (even with the risk of ruining christmas holidays.")

Well Courage Andree !

CLARIFICATION AFTER BEING ASKED A QUESTION


The "main lenght" so to speak is given by the number of  12 BIGHT grids used
the 14 BIGHTgrid is for "closing or re-entering the curve" to get a circle.

So with a cordage of about ONE millimetre ( Nono) to ONE millimetre and 3/10 ( Barry ) in diameter Nono and Barry used SEVEN of the 12 B grids/templates PLUS ONE of the 14 B grid

+ 12B + 12B
+ 12B + 12B + 12B +12B +12B + 14B +

+ gluing zones close the circle ( look a Barry's photo of his cylinder , he redimmensionned
 Nono's grid to his convenience ))

 + gluing zone makes the " main length"

 + gluing zone attached "the finishing 14 B" grid to the "main length"

Imagine the 14B grid is the traction machine of a train , the 12 B grids are the wagons. 
The front of traction machine links with the rear of last wagon of the train.

My simplistic 2-GRID cylinder is a very short train = one traction machine and one wagon .
 
+ 12B + 14B is NOT a building unit, NOT A LEGO BRICK but the FULL construction.

The Building LEGO Bricks are of 2 types = 12 B and 14B and ONLY ONE 14 B is to be
used.


With a 4/10 of millimetre cordage Norbert used SEVENTEEN ( 17 ) of the 12 B grids and ONE of the 14B grids
+ 12B + 12B
+ 12B + 12B + 12B +12B +12B
+ 12B + 12B + 12B + 12B
+
12B +12B
+ 12B + 12B + 12B + 12B  + 14B +

The crossing of wires in the explanation came from the fact that it was Alcosinus's bracelet (7 + 1 ) that was shown as illustration and that Norbert first wrote of the ( 17+1) bracelet he had done for his nephew.
Claude  asked a question and I pestered every one ( Alain ,
Barry, Norbert) to clarify .

Barry (he is a really "one of a kind" guy with knots ) simply "counted" on the photo and deduced 7 grids plus 1 and had some luck with the cordage diameter which was not grossly different from what Norbert used for Alain's bracelet.



Added 2010 Dec 15th
Yesterday I got a real treasure as a gift : A bracelet by Nono
PHOTO 1     PHOTO 2     PHOTO 3




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Added 2009 August  1rst :   new improved grid put on 2011 April 10th
Another NONO's  creation   :  A Saturn Ringed Spherical Covering.

I got it yesterday evening in a mail common to Don WRIGHT and I with just those words :

[open quote]
Once again I cooked a pretty little knot for the fans !
I give you permission to forward the grid to those who want to make this knot.
I have neither the time nor the patience to write on this knot. What I can say is that if it is put on  a sphere, it will render Saturn Planet aspect!
You are free to put  it on the public place and to write any complementing commentaries you may judge useful .
Best regards, Nono
[end quote]


I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT
THIS KNOT BE KNOWN AS
ILYESS KNOT
in honour of Nono and Zohra's new born son (came to us a fortnight ago)

Nono cannot send a photo of his knot (no camera) but we can count on
Don WRIGHT to be making this one and sending illustrations.

HERE IS THE GRID  ( the grid has been modified on 2009 Sept 18th)


Added 2009 October  4th :  the knot made by Nono himself !



Added 2009 August  4th :

03/08/2009  from Don WRIGHT
[open quote]
Wow! What a nightmare this is. The cords are so close together it's hard to get between and see if you go over or under. Lots of mistakes and undoing and redoing. Going slower than expected  and on top of that I think I'm going to have to splice more line in as I must not have guess close enough on the amount I needed. &*$%#*$$!.
 
Still at it anyway so I might be a little later with pics. 
[end quote]   Accompanying photo

04/08/2009  from Don WRIGHT 
[open quote]
A couple of pics of completed grid around a 2.75 inch mandrel. I used 26 feet of 2mm
cord and was 5 feet short. Use a minimum of 32 feet at that size mandrel. If you have
bigger paper. 81/2 X14 you can make a bigger grid  but you will need a larger mandrel
also. The one I used was a bit to small to see the over under marking good and cord was almost side by side on the bottom part. Took almost 8 full hours to complete grid. Really slow going and but checking each straight shot as you go will same you a lot of undo and redo time and frustration. really easy to get cords off one hole. Will be interesting to see how this goes on a ball as there seems to be a lot of irregular sections to this grid, not a total over under grid with some big spaces between. Time will tell.
Going take it off of grid now and see what happens. Wish me luck.
[end quote] Accompanying photo


04/08/2009  from Don WRIGHT later in the day  
[open quote]
After taking off grid, disaster struck. ....
....

Ouch! What a ball of string, it did not keep it's shape long enough to even get a ball into the mess. Top part went boom real quick and the bottom followed. Will have to straighten out mess to get a ball into the net part. Yes I am ready to quit but I will at least try to fix it.
Might require stronger drink to get through this one. Maybe if I get my eyes crossed I won't notice the tangles and it will come out fine. Not a fun one at all. If I get trough this it will be the only one in the world. Trick will be to not tell of the trouble ahead and let them find out for themselves. I don't think anybody will even try after they see the mess it falls into when removed from the mandrel. I've be wrong before but I think I got a sure bet on this. Amen

[end quote]

Nono who had  been Cced
My translation/adaptation

[open quote]
Quel feuilleton ! 
What a TV series


C’est la première fois que j’arrive à suivre une série « Américaine » en comprenant
toutes les nuances et les subtilités des dialogues !

First time that I can follow an American  series while understanding all the shades and
subtelities of the dialogs


Mais pourquoi ils ne font pas de même à la télé ?
Why don't they do that on French TV ?

Si mes matériaux de nouages n’étaient pas encore dans les cartons, j’aurais
probablement réalisé « Saturne » moi-même, mais bon, la transmettre à des
passionnés aussi mordus que moi est aussi une expérience intéressante… il nous décrit très bien les difficultés qu’on rencontre quotidiennement lors du nouage.

 If my knotting gear was not still in the boxes, I would probably have made "Saturne" myself, but then to give it to persons having the same degree of passion I have is also a very interesting experience...the difficulties encountered daily while making knots are shown very well.

Pour ma part, je ne fait pas comme Don, directement avec un bout de 2mm : j’utilise
du fil de voile de 0,2 mm ce qui me permet de voir le schéma dessous, de corriger les
erreurs plus facilement (je coupe et je ressoude au briquet au bon endroit) et quand le
mandrin est correct, je passe mon fil de 2mm, après avoir enlevé les épingles, en me
servant du fil de voile comme d’un guide après les avoir soudés bout-à-bout.

As for me I do not proceed as Don does, directly with a 2mm cord : I use a sailer thread of
0.2 mm that allow me to see the template underneath, to  correct mistakes more easily ( I cut and "solder" with  a lighter at the correct place ) and when all is correct I thread  my 2 mm cord, after having taken off the pins, using the sail thread as a guide after having oldered it end to end (  my comment s= see the article in KN that shows the mould system )


Le résultat est attendu, mais une bonne table familiale est plus importante que tous les
nœuds du monde J l’instant familial est sacré et doit être préservé coute que coute…
et surtout envers tout les trépignements d’impatience des noueurs du monde entier qui
 font trembler la planète.

Result is waited for, but a good family table is more important than all the knots in the world, the family moment is sacred and to be preserved at all costs...in particular against the stamping in impatience of all the knot tyers in the World that make the planet quake.

Il faut que je précise une chose que j’ai failli oublier : la baderne de base qui  m’as
inspiré pour saturne est une réalisation de Pat Ducey. N’oubliez pas de le préciser
dans vos articles.

I must state a precise point that I almost forgot : the mat that served as starting point for my  inspiration  is the 8B by Pat DUCEY. Don't forget to say that in your articles

Mes amis,  j’attends la suite des évènements, « suspendu aux doigts de Don ».
My Friends I am waiting what will happen next " suspended to Don's fingers"
[end quote]



 
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Added 2009 July  13th :

Another NONO's  creation   : joining 2 'THK-like structures' in a
DOUBLE SLEEVE KNOT ( think cartridge belt limited to 2 cartridges ; in fact
Norbert and Zhora
TRUPIANO being with a baby to come soon - not soon enough for them - it could be a baby bottles holder ;-O)  )

This is NOT a THK but  it is a ONE STRAND structure. (Think about Siamese THK if you want but this is NOT, I repeat NOT a THK ) IFF you do not get why this is not a THK then I suggest that you read SCHAAKE on the so-called """""CASA"""""" and that you read my own article on  what is a THK
   THK are not braids     and  THK or NOT THK

Clearly this does not in the least obey the geometry of a single O-U THK.
Saying that having one strand and regular Over-Under crossing is a bit....err...short sighted.



First one that NONO titled : 2 manchons entrelacés  == 2 interlaced sleeves

Second one that Nono titled : 2 manchons double entrelacés == 2 double sleeves interlaced

Here are what it is about
and
what the end result should be ( NONO made those knots in the rope but does not
own a  digital camera any more so no photo from him ) .

Be advised that those grids are NOT to be used on a cylinder.
They MUST BE used FLAT on a cork board, just as if doing a mat.

After laying the knot then you carefully search for the double sleeve structure
 in what you just laid and dress it *very* carefully, doubling or tripling the first pass
if you feel like it.

Norbert said that this was just an exploration made to see if it could be done and
that he has no intent to push it farther.

Last minute : a trusted friend of both Nono and I : DON(ald) WRIGHT made one
sample of the knot : 4-PASS :
This should be more than enough for any knot-tyer worth his salt to make his own.

Added 2009 July  18th :
Don WRIGHT : attempted the second grid  and send me a photography of the laying

[open quote]Two more tries. 1st one in 2mm nylon cord-to slick to hold shape. Destroyed to salvage cord. 2nd one out of 2mm poly cord-more friction and holds shape better. Found out that double means double the frustration level also. Really harder to hold shape and double or tripling will be an exercise in frustration. What the heck I'll try anything ONCE.
[end quote]




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Added 2009 April  19th :
Another of NONO's creation ( Norbert TRUPIANO )  COVERING FOR CUBES

Nono's first 3 cubes

The full collection of grids in PDF format

First grid JPG
Second grid JPG





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GRIDS FOR SPHERICAL COVERINGS INVENTED BY NONO


Added 2008 August 20th

Left  mouse click open a "big" picture.
A right mouse click on the "big picture allow downloading

Picasa slideshow of the grids included in KN 69
those grids were published in a feature signed by NONO and ALCOSINUS.




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 NONO : THE RETURN :

An Excel worksheet to help people wanting to make Solid Sinnets with a Table

It is Excel 97 format so should be usable by every one.

Here is a user's tip by Nono:
pdf file


Screen captures
( sorry I made them "light" so they are a bit out of focus)




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NONO BEING INVENTIVE AGAIN

That I photographed 3 days ago, in Nono's hand.
It is one of his grids.




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A NEW CREATION BY NONO : a 'purse' to empty your pockets into.

- UN VIDE-POCHES ( bilingual  file )
                                                             the diagram alone



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A feature  ALCOSINUS & NONO wrote and that I was asked to put here as soon as
possible  : I am happy to comply with their wish


SPHERICAL COVERING OF A NEW TYPE
A feature to be published by PAB newsletter KNOTS NEWS.

You will find the ENGLISH version here
and / et ... la version en FRANÇAIS ici

Added 2010 Nov 9th
Jan VOS remake with a program still in test run of Norbert's grid/diagram for the 360 faces spherical cover

Nono'sd grid in .jpg


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